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19371 No.3536   [Reply]

There's some pretty weird looking things going on here.

>that ant trail through the Himalayas
>that random blob in Uzbekistan
>those giant gaps in central Asia and China
>that random spot in south India

How accurate is this map? And what's the explanation for these things?

>> No.3560  

I don't know all of the answers, but I imagine it rests largely on local features. Maybe there're particular spots with enough water for otters due to rivers that surrounding areas don't have. I am also curious about the Indian and Malaysian spots though

>> No.3608  

I know their range in Norway is somewhat spotty. North of Bergen their coastal population is viable and I really wanna make a sadafari trip there to spot some. Otherwise southwards their coastal population have never made a real comeback after the acidic precipitation of earlier times. Inlands is nothing to speak of as of yet except a small populations. I really hope they make a comeback inlands as well and outcompetes the american mink

>> No.3641  

>>3536
I was looking at a map of the orca population recently, and I noticed how the population is depicted as being present around islands but not in the sea between those islands and the coasts. I wondered at the time if that was because they might just travel across deeper waters but live mostly in costal waters, but it could also be that coasts are where people are to spot orcas.

Point is, I'm wondering if some of the oddities of this map are being driven by humans being in the area to spot otters, or the population being able to identify an otter as an otter and not some other small wildlife. Otters can be sneaky after all, an otter in the underbrush at night would certainly be hard to ID.

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>>3641

>Otters can be sneaky after all, an otter in the underbrush at night would certainly be hard to ID

Now this is definitely true! Otters are super sneaky, and most people aren't in tune enough with nature to pay attention to when there's an otter.
pic related



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19855 No.3463   [Reply]

Educational otter materials
Hi otters, as some of you might have heard at the congress, Carol Bennetto from the Otter Specialist Group launched a fantastic little website where she hosts a bunch of educational material about otters for kids and adults. However she needs some help creating new material, as well as translating and distributing the existing stuff.
Maybe we can help out and make some material of our own? I'm sure we have quite a few otters with the necessary skills here... people need to know about otters, after all.

https://ottered.com/

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>> No.3524  

>>3522
That's a great idea! Yeah, the page is completely empty as of now apart from a link. What information do you think should be included in particular? Needs to have some solid facts of course, all about the harm it's doing to the species but also about how hard it is to keep an otter as a pet.

>> No.3527  

>>3524
I think the biggest thing we should talk about is the harm that the pet otter trade causes to wild otters. I've heard a lot of talk about how poachers kill adult otters for pelts and steal babies for being pets, so that's definitely something to talk about. I also know that there have been a couple of studies of otter cafes and how they're totally unable to care for their otters, so maybe we bring that up somehow?

>> No.3528  

>>3527
I agree, that's definitely worth mentioning. IMO it's good to keep it short and sweet and get the point across. Why don't we both think about it and write something up? Maybe we can make it into a graphic, too.

>> No.3529  

>>3528
Sounds like a plan, I'll write something up tonight

>> No.3665  

Hey, did we ever finish something?



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38963 No.3656   [Reply]

I'm going to run a heist game with some friends of mine, wherein the player characters are all otters! I thought y'all might want to see the system, I made it up specifically for this game. The rules are very light, and it's very fluff-oriented, but I'm kind of proud of them and thought that y'all might enjoy. Or maybe if you play these games you could use it for your own games!

>> No.3659  

Looks pretty cool! Otter games are definitely something the world could use more of, although I'm not a fan of dice based games (would prefer games where you can prove your ottery skills).



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200127 No.3506   [Reply]

https://otter.chat/map/

A world map of otter conservation activities, projects, NGOs etc. It's still in development as of now. Please try it out and tell me if it works for you or if there's any bugs.

I'd like this to be a complete and up to date overview of all our activities, so this thread is also a place to share suggestions, updates and submissions. If you have anything you'd like to see on the map please post it in this thread and I'll add it!

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>> No.3572  

>>3570
Sure is and I hope it'll be more in the future :smallclawed:

>> No.3584  

Added:

>Return of the Eurasian Otter in Schleswig-Holstein, Germany
>> No.3635  

Added:

>Upper Peninsula River Otter Project
>We are using snow tracking, camera traps, and DNA from harvested otters to examine the connectivity of river otter populations in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. We are also interested in how this connectivity affects the otter population size and distribution of disease particularly Toxoplasma gondii.
>> No.3637  

Arcane Conservancy is currently working with Maharashtra State Forest Department and Local Communities for long-term Otter Research and Awareness Programmes in Coastal Maharashtra.

>> No.3643  

>>3637
Added!



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8915354 No.3631   [Reply]

So a lot of animals don't really like hugs. Are otters different? Will an otter let you hug it? Or do they only hug each other?
Post some pics of otters hugging pls.

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Wow that gif is way too big. Here, optimized

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I've seen videos of otters hugging people, but you probably shouldn't try too hard for it. If an otter wants to hug you, then he will. If he doesn't, then you're in for a world of hurt!

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This isn't quite a full hug, but it's kinda like one



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189770 No.515   [Reply]

Post em

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>> No.1495  

>>1488
How would you know? Have you been licked by an otter?

>> No.1496  

>>1495
I never kiss and tell.
Otters respond aggressively to violations of their privacy.

>> No.3233  

Haha! I love this little otter guy!

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>> No.3625  

What do they use them for?



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183639 No.1614   [Reply]

What is he building?

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>> No.3563  

>>3562
Does it have to be on your head?

>> No.3567  

>>3563
The Otter Safety and Health Administration agency is very clear that you do need to wear a safety helmet, but it doesn't need to be on your head. This otter is up to code!

>> No.3576  

>>3567
Well, they are the utmost authority on otter safety, I suppose that otter must be up to code!

>> No.3613  

>>1614
What's he building in there? With that hook light on the stairs...

>> No.3618  

>>3613
I don't know what he's making, but I'm sure it'll be well built, whatever it is! Everyone knows otters are brilliant, and that most likely extends to building projects too



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279203 No.2499   [Reply]

If you are not aware of the Bishan and Marina otter families from Singapore, I highly encourage you to look into it. My SO and I were searching for footage of otters being cute when we found this video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75Q1qVFYJkk
learning about these two families, their way of living, and the wars they fight in entertained us both greatly. I love otters and I love otterchat.net. I hope this will pique your interest as much as it did mine. Have a good day wherever you are my otter-loving frens.

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Here's a map of all the different families' territories as of 2020

>> No.2660  

Man, this kind of stuff is cool. Nature really is amazing, and otters are the most amazing part of it.

>> No.2691  

>>2654
I remember watching something about Singapore's attempts to encourage otters to move in, and I'm glad to see it seems to be successful. Good for people, good for otters.

>> No.3612  

Apparently Zouk family is now taking over Bishan family territories with a final battle speculated to happen soon
Bishan family has become weak since they lost Bishan Mum, and Zouk has started their campaign against them
https://www.facebook.com/otterscene/videos/741591971094489/

>> No.3615  

>>3612
I had been wondering if some of the neighbors would move in after I saw news of her death. I'm interested to see how the new territory maps look after the dust settles.



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43665 No.876   [Reply]

I bet you can't name one word that rhymes with otter.

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>> No.907  

>>876
Potter

>> No.3335  

Name one word that rhymes with otter? That's a tough challenge, to be sure...
Well, one word that rhymes with otter is daughter, and if I had a daughter, I'd name her Alice, so I'll give 'daughter' the name of Alice.
There, I've completed your challenge. Now, I have one of my own: Can you think of any names that rhyme with otter? They don't have to be common, mind you, so feel free to get as esoteric as you like.

>> No.3336  

>>3335
It's definitely more than archaic, but Ptolemy's full name was Ptolemy Soter, and depending on how you pronounce that, it can rhyme with otter. But I can't think of anything else right now, I'll see if any other names come to mind

>> No.3337  

>>876
Water

>> No.3614  

totter



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118536 No.2893   [Reply]

Thought I should transplant this thread from /otter/. Post your best ott reaction pix here

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My offering is a gif but I hope it is acceptable

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I have too many lol

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One more (:

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One more (:

>> No.3611  

>>3580
Who's he ringing?



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102405 No.1807   [Reply]

Otters have existed on earth for 30 million years. 30 000 000 years, or 30 000 millenia.
That's 150 times longer than humans are known to have existed.
If you count the early otterish mammals, then that's 150 million (150 000 000) years of otters, or 750 times the human existence.

In other words, if otters had existed for 1000 years, we would have been here for about 1.3 years.

Otters are pretty long.

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Speaking of older otters, I recently learned that there were once lion-sized otters! Giant otters are certainly big boys, but these otts must have really been something else!
https://www.livescience.com/lion-sized-otter-unearthed-ethiopia

>> No.3559  

>>3558
Were there also giant fish back then? It seems everything was big back then...

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>>3559
I suppose that there must have been. I'm far from an expert, but if predators can get that big, it must mean that there was some hefty prey out there to be eaten.

>> No.3564  

>>3559
Apparently they mostly ate land based prey, very strange otters to not be in the water but also equally interesting to learn about. What a different world we would live in if terrestrial otters were the norm.

>> No.3598  

>>3564

>What a different world we would live in if terrestrial otters were the norm.

Definitely, but I suppose that, for the creatures living back then, that was normal. So maybe they'd see our watery otters and think we're the strange ones!
:lol:



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170374 No.480   [Reply]

ITT Cute Baby Otters*!!!*

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I can't get over how small and cute baby otts are!

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Baby sea otters bring so much floof into our world

>> No.3390  

>>3327
It's incredible how such a small little thing turns into a real otter.

>> No.3585  

https://www.aza.org/connect-stories/stories/first-baby-otters-born-at-connecticuts-beardsley-zoo-in-more-than-a-decade
Found this on the news section, looks like we've got some new otters in Connecticut!

>> No.3586  

>>3585 Awesome! I hope they'll thrive.



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108576 No.3568   [Reply]

Happy Easter everybody! Hope everyone is having a good one full of celebration, if you partake.

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Hoppy Easter everyone!



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33697 No.3470   [Reply]

Otters don't just hunt in the water, they'll often hunt small mammals like rabbits too. It's kind of impressive that an otter was quick enough to catch a rabbit, tbh.

(Captured by Alan Kennedy in South Uist, Scotland)

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>> No.3504  

What a catch, it's not easy to catch a rabbit even as a land predator. I'm sure that otter's family was very happy that day

>> No.3508  

>>3504
It was definitely a hard fought meal, what with how quick bunnies can be, but the otter obviously came out on top! And I'm sure his family loved it, rabbit does taste good after all

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>>3484
Otters can get a surprising amount of birds, from what I can tell. Here's one with another kind of bird, not sure what type

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>>3515
That's awesome! Must be some kind of aquatic bird?

Here's another rabbit otter.

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>>3515
And this one! From River Otter Ecology Project.



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80797 No.2187   [Reply]

Otter news from around the globe! Will update weekly. It's keyword based so there will be a few irrelevant links, but enjoy regardless
https://otterchat.net/dev/news/bulletin.html
https://otterchat.net/dev/news/bulletin.html
https://otterchat.net/dev/news/bulletin.html

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Good stuff, glad there's a reliable place to get otter news! Also, https://www.sidmouthherald.co.uk/news/otter-raids-fishpond-at-otter-garden-centre-8645440

>otter raids fishpond

You can't keep the ott out

>> No.2189  

Correction, I've set it to update daily so you'll always be up to date with otter happenings.

>>2188

>Otter Garden

And they don't even wanna let otters in? What kinda business is this?

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https://www.nit.pt/fora-de-casa/na-cidade/morreu-a-lontra-marinha-mais-velha-da-europa-vivia-no-oceanario-de-lisboa
Europe's oldest sea otter died :(
Micas lived in Lisbon Oceanarium and died at age 20

>> No.3545  

News are back online!



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103633 No.3440   [Reply]

What's better than an otter? A whole pile of otters!

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>> No.3457  

>>3455
I think three is the lower limit, so I say yes!

>> No.3458  

>>3455
I'd say each otter is a pile of otters that contains exactly one otter, and when these singleton piles get close to each other they automatically join into a larger pile.

>> No.3459  

If you replace each otter in a pile with another otter, is it still the same pile?

>> No.3460  

>>3440
Otters when waiting for food

>>3454
Otters when there's food

>> No.3538  

>>3459
Does a pile of all piles contain itself?



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306796 No.3425   [Reply]

Today I found out there are otter bugs.

>The Great diving beetle is a large and voracious predator of ponds and slow-moving waterways. Blackish-green in colour, it can be spotted coming to the surface to replenish the air supply it stores beneath its wing cases.
>> No.3426  

It's a cool bug, I like the colour. What other animals have otter versions?

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Cormorants! I learned that these birds are excellent swimmers, and they can dive up to 45 meters deep. How cool is that?

I had thought penguins might be otter-birds, but they're more like sea lions than otters I'd say.

>> No.3534  

>>3473

>45 meters

I wonder if they ever get the bends.



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372179 No.3449   [Reply]

How often do sea otters go on land? Are they as nimble on land as their river cousins?

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>>3449
After doing some research, they occasionally get on land in a process called hauling out. From what I can tell, they do it to get away from predators and to help warm up. Makes sense that getting on land would be warmer than the cold ocean water, and I can't think of any land predators in those regions that would target sea otters, so it seems like a good place to go and relax a bit:lol:

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>>3523 Hauling out? Isn't that what it's called when seals go on land? Idk, sea otters can kinda still walk, they don't really "haul", do they?

>> No.3526  

>>3525
That's true, hauling might not be the best term. But I think it might be a general behavior applied to marine mammals, which would encompass both seals and sea otters. I'm far from an expert, this is just what I got from a quick Googling

>> No.3530  

>>3526
Oh right, so it's a marine mammal thing. I wonder if it applies to other marine mammals? Maybe just those that live in the sea a majority of the time?

>> No.3531  

>>3523
Wolves do hunt sea otters in Alaska, but they've only started doing this after all the deer disappeared.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/in-alaska-hungry-wolves-have-started-eating-sea-otters-180981509/



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24538 No.2604   [Reply]

I found this old otter message board that lived from 1998 to the early 2000s, it's pretty interesting to click through
https://web.archive.org/web/20000816162540/http://www.otternet.com/wwwboard/wwwboard.html

Looks like a board for Otters is an idea almost as old as the internet itself

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>> No.3312  

I've also discovered this, there was actually a newsgroup about otters. There's a lot of spam and nonsense but fun to click through nonetheless.
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.animals.otters

>> No.3313  

>>3309
One thing I'd like to have more of is all the personal otter encounter stories, but sadly that's a very rare thing and we are only few, so we won't get those kinds of tales often

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>>3309
Sometimes I wonder how much we should advertise Otterchat. On the one hand, more otternons is always a good thing, but on the other hand, rapid influxes of new people always worry me. But maybe I'm just being a Nervous Nancy about it

>> No.3318  

>>3316
Personally, I think just telling friends about it is enough. Direct advertising usually doesn't work at all, people just need to discover this place naturally by finding something they're looking for in it. The way the internet is right now, maybe that's a little hard for most people, but I think this place is already pretty successful as it is considering how niche of a topic it covers.

>> No.3493  

At this point I see no problem with advertising the site. We've got a captcha to keep unqualified posters out, so we should be able to advertise as much as we want. We should still be smart about it of course, don't just spam links or anything.



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2935105 No.2646   [Reply]

Otters are so cool, I wanna be like one. How do I learn to become otter?

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>> No.3399  

>>2676 Always being curious is a big part of what makes an otter an otter. Even if something seems boring and mundane at first glance, just take a moment to take it in and appreciate it. And maybe it'll turn out to be something fascinating.

>> No.3475  

>>2652
It reminds me of the Prophet's saying, "The Paradise is surrounded by hardships".

>> No.3478  

>>3475
The principle of getting in the water also points toward the merits of self-discipline and commitment. The water may not be enjoyable or pleasant. It may be cold and uncomfortable. But the water is rewarding all the same. There is something to be gained from getting in the water. Something that is greater than the unpleasant feeling that comes from getting in it. You may make that leap into the water, and you may catch a fish or a crab, and then eat and be satisfied for the rest of the day. Those few minutes in the water getting over your own aversion to the discomfort of being in the aquatic environment brought you something much better than just avoiding having to endure the water for a short while.

This is a lesson for us, too. When the prophet said that Paradise is surrounded by hardships, he was referring to the trials and hardships a believer endures in this life to gain the ultimate reward in the next. There are unpleasant and uncomfortable things in our lives which we endure because we know that they will bring us to a better outcome.

Why do otters get in the water? To catch the fish. You don't just have to ask yourself what the water is, but what the fish is, as well. Not only what it is you may have to endure, but what you hope to gain from it.

>> No.3487  

I like this thread
https://ia801604.us.archive.org/2/items/get-in-the-water/get-in-the-water.ia.mp4

>> No.3489  

>>3487
This is pretty swell, thanks for sharing!



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194390 No.1783   [Reply]

Otters are wonderful friends, but sometimes... they don't get along.

Or maybe they do it for fun?

Here is some otter wrestling.

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>>2436 either a fight or very fierce love.

>> No.2453  

>>2442
Otters love hard and fight hard

>> No.2454  

>>2453 Passionate otters!

>> No.2758  

>>1783
They definitely do it for fun, playfighting is simply one of otter's many sports.

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>>2436 You just can't tell sometimes.



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1865806 No.172   [Reply]

BLRLBLRLBLBLRLBL

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>> No.1155  

>>1079
A lot of the great natural processes will involve otters in some capacity

>> No.1157  

>>1155
In a perfect world.
Dubdubs confirm that's the way it's supposed 2b.

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1000 miles per hour

>> No.3462  

These are magnificent



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447789 No.2340   [Reply]

Every time I see an otter, I always say "otter"

Does anyone else do this?

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>> No.2354  

Otters are candy for the eyes

>>2351
Sounds like a funny otter picture, can you post it?

>> No.2584  

I like saying otter
otter

>> No.2663  

>>2341 I hope you see otters soon

>> No.2665  

>>2354

>Otters are candy for the eyes

Except otters are good for you.

>> No.3450  

I've shortened it by now, I just say 'ter



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170152 No.257   [Reply]

Otters are really smart. Let's post some otters being clever

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>>262
Another otter plumber

>> No.3364  

I found out that otters learn stuff faster after watching friends do that thing. they're so smart! https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rsos.201215

>> No.3365  

>>3364 Apparently, an otter got a 35 on the ACT last year... truly creatures of inestimable intellect.

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Waiting in the doctor's office

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>>3365
Did that really happen?



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97828 No.572   [Reply]

Otters love their buckets.

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>> No.3116  

>>3115
I like to believe this was a two otter job, where the first one deliberately distracted the human so the second could execute the grab. A well planned otter heist.

>> No.3117  

>>3116 Perhaps. Or maybe the second otter just saw a good opportunity to grab that bucket. Not planned, but well executed.

>> No.3118  

>>3117
Though have to say otters seem like animals that are enough in tune with each other to plan complex things like that. They'd be able to solve problems together like (how do we steal the guy's bucket without him noticing).

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>>2029
How about a bucket full of water? I believe humans call that a pool

>> No.3447  

>>3443 That would be perfect for otters.
And that pic is just the cutest!



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